basically just sit in the back ofle radios and listen to what is happening already. and figure out where my energy and my skills and my passion can fit in. so i think bringing that humility to the table is an attraction. >> here is kevin, give him a listen. >> one of the main challenges that detroit needs to address, crime, poverty, jobs and services. people need to feel safe, and they need to have some reliable and services such as emergency and fire. just reliable, and timely services such as emergency and fire. garbage collection, as entrepreneur ship enough to save detroit, it may be its only chance, it will take time to move out from areas such as the news center, cultural center, or the central business district. all right, jay, detroit has problems.